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steve l
To Justin,

It is sad to see you go, but I understand completely why. OS has become just work for you and the fun has left. I can understand that! I wish you the very best in what you do now and in the future. You are very good at what you do. Thank you ever so much for all your help over the years!

Steve LaVigne
CFO A Dimension Beyond, Inc.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Dropping CLA requirement for code contributions.
      (Justin Clark-Casey)
   2. Overte is going away as a formal organization (Justin Clark-Casey)
   3. Everything that has a beginning has an end (Justin Clark-Casey)
   4. Re: Everything that has a beginning has an end (Cinder Roxley)
   5. Re: Everything that has a beginning has an end (Dahlia Trimble)
   6. best to you sir and many tks (Michel Beauregard)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 19:33:37 +0100
From: Justin Clark-Casey <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Opensim-dev] Dropping CLA requirement for code
        contributions.
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi folks,

For the past few years, OpenSimulator has required any core developer and anybody contributing significant feature code
or large patches to submit a Contributor's License Agreement (CLA) to the Overte foundation.

This was inspired by IBM when they were involved.  I believe their extremely conservative view of licensing was behind
the ban on OpenSimulator committers from looking at (GPL, then LGPL) viewer code.  The argument was that code committed
to OpenSimulator that was extremely similar to viewer code could arguably be derived copyright from the viewer code.  It
would both have to be GPL'd (causing difficulties for OpenSimulator) and be associated with damages.  All this is highly
theoretical and has never been tested legally to my knowledge.

Nonetheless, this was one factor in making us go down the route of establishing Overte and the requirement for
contributors to submit the CLA.  The CLA also has Apache-like language requiring code committers to license any patents
they may hold over those contributions.

Much of this was done shortly after the peak of Second Life hype.  But it also has costs in terms of constructing a
barrier to contributions and the organization which received those CLAs is going away.  Perhaps there was some value in
the patent statements but personally don't feel that anybody is going to be making the kind of money from OpenSimulator
that would attract any patent trolls.

Therefore, after a core discussion we have decided that CLAs are no longer required for any code contributions.  This is
with immediate effect.

Best Regards,

--
Justin Clark-Casey (justincc)
OSVW Consulting
http://justincc.org
http://twitter.com/justincc


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 19:36:06 +0100
From: Justin Clark-Casey <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email], [hidden email]
Subject: [Opensim-dev] Overte is going away as a formal organization
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi folks,

The original reason for setting up Overte was as a legal entity to receive Contributor License Agreements (CLAs) and to
pass on any patent rights effectively granted through those CLAs.  However, we also hoped that it could act as an
organization for community activity and perhaps receiving money to pay for development.

In some of these things it has been a success.  In particular it successfully acted as a focal point for producing the
OpenSimulator conferences in conjunction with Avacon.

However, handling money is a complex issue for all kinds of reasons, particularly for software developers who hate
bureaucracy.  For that reason, we never went down this path.  Indeed, the organization instead has cost considerable
money because it's not free to register a non-profit company.

For this reason and because the CLAs are going away anyway, Overte will now cease to be a formal legal entity.  It may
continue to exist informally.

--
Justin Clark-Casey (justincc)
OSVW Consulting
http://justincc.org
http://twitter.com/justincc


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 19:38:01 +0100
From: Justin Clark-Casey <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email], [hidden email]
Subject: [Opensim-dev] Everything that has a beginning has an end
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi folks,

As some of you may have noticed, my last OpenSimulator commit was in May, and before that in March.  I have also not
been on the mailing list or responsive to personal e-mails, for which I apologise.

Unfortunately, for various reasons (some of which I'm still trying to work out, to be honest) my motivation to work in
this area has gone away.  Perhaps it's just the normal passage of time and evolving interests - it has been 8 years
after all!

I'm now working in the area of data integration for genetics and synthetic biology, an even more insanely complex system
and perhaps ultimately frustrating since you can't just go and code an organism (at least, not yet).  We shall see.

I do hope to keep up with the mailing lists and e-mail to this account, at least much better than recently.  However,
although I remain a core committer, at least for now, in the immediate future code commits from me will be extremely
sparse.  I will also probably not be reviewing code changes in general.

I am also resigning with immediate effect as president of Overte, which is going away as a formal legal organization
anyway (see other e-mails for more details on that).

It's been a wild 8 years and I wouldn't have it any other way.  Huge thanks to everybody who has supported OpenSimulator
and me personally in that time.  I wish you all the best and I'm sure OpenSimulator and the Metaverse in general will
have a great future

I made a blog post at [1] those this is pretty much what I said above.

No flowers.

[1] http://justincc.org/blog/2015/08/09/everything-that-has-a-beginning-has-an-end/

--
Justin Clark-Casey (justincc)
OSVW Consulting
http://justincc.org
http://twitter.com/justincc


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 12:42:00 -0600
From: Cinder Roxley <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Everything that has a beginning has an end
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thank you for everything you?ve done Justin and best wishes on your new path. Hope to see you around!

--?
Cinder Roxley
Sent with Airmail

On August 9, 2015 at 12:38:31 PM, Justin Clark-Casey ([hidden email]) wrote:

Hi folks,

As some of you may have noticed, my last OpenSimulator commit was in May, and before that in March. I have also not
been on the mailing list or responsive to personal e-mails, for which I apologise.

Unfortunately, for various reasons (some of which I'm still trying to work out, to be honest) my motivation to work in
this area has gone away. Perhaps it's just the normal passage of time and evolving interests - it has been 8 years
after all!

I'm now working in the area of data integration for genetics and synthetic biology, an even more insanely complex system
and perhaps ultimately frustrating since you can't just go and code an organism (at least, not yet). We shall see.

I do hope to keep up with the mailing lists and e-mail to this account, at least much better than recently. However,
although I remain a core committer, at least for now, in the immediate future code commits from me will be extremely
sparse. I will also probably not be reviewing code changes in general.

I am also resigning with immediate effect as president of Overte, which is going away as a formal legal organization
anyway (see other e-mails for more details on that).

It's been a wild 8 years and I wouldn't have it any other way. Huge thanks to everybody who has supported OpenSimulator
and me personally in that time. I wish you all the best and I'm sure OpenSimulator and the Metaverse in general will
have a great future

I made a blog post at [1] those this is pretty much what I said above.

No flowers.

[1] http://justincc.org/blog/2015/08/09/everything-that-has-a-beginning-has-an-end/
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 11:42:56 -0700
From: Dahlia Trimble <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Everything that has a beginning has an end
Message-ID:
        <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Best of luck in your future endeavors Justin, and thanks for all the fish!
:)

On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Justin Clark-Casey <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> As some of you may have noticed, my last OpenSimulator commit was in May,
> and before that in March.  I have also not been on the mailing list or
> responsive to personal e-mails, for which I apologise.
>
> Unfortunately, for various reasons (some of which I'm still trying to work
> out, to be honest) my motivation to work in this area has gone away.
> Perhaps it's just the normal passage of time and evolving interests - it
> has been 8 years after all!
>
> I'm now working in the area of data integration for genetics and synthetic
> biology, an even more insanely complex system and perhaps ultimately
> frustrating since you can't just go and code an organism (at least, not
> yet).  We shall see.
>
> I do hope to keep up with the mailing lists and e-mail to this account, at
> least much better than recently.  However, although I remain a core
> committer, at least for now, in the immediate future code commits from me
> will be extremely sparse.  I will also probably not be reviewing code
> changes in general.
>
> I am also resigning with immediate effect as president of Overte, which is
> going away as a formal legal organization anyway (see other e-mails for
> more details on that).
>
> It's been a wild 8 years and I wouldn't have it any other way.  Huge
> thanks to everybody who has supported OpenSimulator and me personally in
> that time.  I wish you all the best and I'm sure OpenSimulator and the
> Metaverse in general will have a great future
>
> I made a blog post at [1] those this is pretty much what I said above.
>
> No flowers.
>
> [1]
> http://justincc.org/blog/2015/08/09/everything-that-has-a-beginning-has-an-end/
>
> --
> Justin Clark-Casey (justincc)
> OSVW Consulting
> http://justincc.org
> http://twitter.com/justincc
> _______________________________________________
> Opensim-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 19:57:33 +0100
From: Michel Beauregard <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Opensim-dev] best to you sir and many tks
Message-ID:
        <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Thanks for everything you done in those 8 years,  congratulation and best of luck in your new carrier.

You might not have much time to read but in case you do.  I love the reading of the following book by Martin Nowak, one of the world?s experts on evolution and game theory. He has done computer simulation of organism and studied among other things  different cancer type . Not that you will learn any programming trick as I am sure you on top of that but more of a thinking appreach to these problems.

SuperCooperators,
http://www.amazon.ca/SuperCooperators-Altruism-Evolution-Other-Succeed/dp/1451626630




GiMiSa



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